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Post by brigitte on Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:15 pm

Today 3 employees from the Ayuntamiento de Chapala Apremios came to the door asking for documentation.
This is what they want:
certified copy of license for construction
certified permit of the building permit..what is the difference I do not know
certified copy for any permit for remodelling and adding to the house
certified copies of the original water permit or permit to expoit natural resources if you have a well
same with light
same with sewer
and on and on..

Anyone know what this is about and what they are up to??
of course certified copy of escritura ..with proof of paying the predial...

I ASKED THEM IF IT WAS THEIR IDEA OF A JOKE OR IF THEY WERE OUT OF MONEY OR WHAT,,
tHE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 70 AND ON OUR STREET ALONE THERE IS ONE ORIGINAL OWNER STILL ALIVE...

I AM GOING TO CALL CITY HALL TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE UP TO...

DO NOT BOTHER CALLING CITY HALL CANNOT TRANSFER TO APREMIOS OR TO DIR RENE MARTINEZ THE LINE IS OUT OF ORDER....I bet it is..

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Post by Trailrunner on Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:02 pm

Brigitte, they came to the cardiology clinic a couple of months ago too.
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Post by Intercasa on Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:24 pm

Shakedowns. Good news is that most government workers dont know their rear from a hole in the ground and dont do their notifications properly so any decent attorney can nullify them.
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Post by brigitte on Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:25 pm

great , I would like to know what the fine is if people do not comply, if it is not too high I think I will take it and forget it ..

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Post by shana on Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:12 pm

When the government sent up planes to photograph sections of the town to check for improvements and construction they tried to get me for not getting construction permits and for additions.
My house was built in 1964 and I have been the sole owner for 17 years.
I got into a huge argument with them as I pointed out that there had been changes over the years but they could not charge me for the work done when no one knows how long ago these things were done and by whom.
They sent three men to look over the property and after another go round with them they finally gave up and
we ended it with my taxes would go up to reflect the changes in the house and its subsequent appreciation.
I was ok with that.

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Post by gringal on Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:26 pm

Intercasa wrote:Shakedowns.  Good news is that most government workers dont know their rear from a hole in the ground and dont do their notifications properly so any decent attorney can nullify them.

I could tell you a "shakedown" story that's been going on since 2013............

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Post by brigitte on Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:46 pm

Well just do not open the door or talk to 2 men and a woman from the Ayuntamiento..

What constitute a proper notification Intercasa?

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Post by brigitte on Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:51 pm

My house was built in 70 and I have never received the original contract about electricity, water or sewage.. Actually there was no sewage in these days and that was added later but I do not know when as I bought in 2001 and I sure never get anything from the notario or from the people I bought the house from.
I did an addition with a permit.. who knows where that is but they came to check it and they add to lower my taxes because they had mismeasured and I was charged way too much.
They want escritura and proof predial was paid... when all they have to do is check their computer.. what a joke..

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Post by brigitte on Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:52 pm

My house was built in 70 and I have never received the original contract about electricity, water or sewage.. Actually there was no sewage in these days and that was added later but I do not know when as I bought in 2001 and I sure never get anything from the notario or from the people I bought the house from.
I did an addition with a permit.. who knows where that is but they came to check it and they add to lower my taxes because they had mismeasured and I was charged way too much.
They want escritura and proof predial was paid... when all they have to do is check their computer.. what a joke..
Anyone knows what the multa is if you do nothing?

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Post by JayBear on Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:11 pm

Maybe you could just do nothing, and when they come back, you could tell them you have dementia and they need to contact your attorney (make your hand shake a little as you give them Spencer's card--he will love dealing with them!) Personally, I am going to practice this--the act might come in handy in any number of situations.

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Post by jrm30655 on Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:41 pm

practice? Comes naturally to me at my age.

I also have Alzheimers. Forget all my Spanish occasionally

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Post by JayBear on Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:50 pm

But isn't it nice to think that you are just practicing! Let's hold onto that concept!

Spanish? Me? I have been here 12 years, and my Spanish is still lousy, but boy, when I get mad, I think of words I didn't know I knew!!! It's all back there in the brain somewhere--I just have trouble accessing the archives!

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Post by Intercasa on Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:03 pm

Sign nothing show no ID speak no Spanish and forbid employees to talk to anyone, identify themselves, say who they are what they do there or sign anything
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Post by JayBear on Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:10 pm

Thanks for posting, Spencer! Must get a few of your cards to leave by the door. In the meantime, I will practice "Lo siento, no habla Expanol." Hopefully there is a small mistake in that line, so callers will know that I REALLY don't speak Spanish.

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Post by Intercasa on Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:44 pm

Dont even open door or talk.
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Post by JayBear on Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:21 pm

Thanks, Spencer! Perhaps fortunately, we live in far west Ajijic in a 12 unit condo area where access is restricted to UPS, Estafeta, neighbors and helpers. We don't even get pizza delivery! But one must remain vigilant! Will look forward to dropping by your office in Chapala to pick up a few cards to hand out, if needed. Hey, we could always give them to neighbors! I always like to keep a few aces up the sleeve, and you are one!

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Post by Intercasa on Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:42 pm

Take pictures of these turkeys or better yet film them and their fraud so it can be uploaded to Youtube! If public officials have no fear of anybody doing anything maybe we can shame them and their bosses and leaders publicly.
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Post by CanuckBob on Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:19 am

Spencer has it right........."no speaka la spanisha"..........jaja.

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Post by Trailrunner on Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:51 am

Intercasa wrote:Dont even open door or talk.

This is my MO all the time. Dog tells me when there is someone at the gate, I peek out to see who it is and if I don't know them I don't respond. It's the Mexican way.
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Post by Lady Otter Latté on Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:34 am

Trailrunner wrote:
Intercasa wrote:Dont even open door or talk.

This is my MO all the time. Dog tells me when there is someone at the gate, I peek out to see who it is and if I don't know them I don't respond. It's the Mexican way.

Exactly. And dog continues barking ferociously until whoever it is leaves. Neighbor's dog barks too just for the fun of it.
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Post by MexicoPete on Mon May 08, 2017 6:30 pm

I and my next door neighbor just had the same thing happen to us. I was up North and it was all explained to me by my next door neighbor. I had remembered seeing this string earlier but I thought it was on TOB and I must have spent an hour trying to find these informative posts. Well someone who also read this board was nice enough to tell me over there to search here and so in no time whatsoever, up here in Seattle, I calmed down.

Thank you all for being here and posting your great information
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Post by brigitte on Mon May 08, 2017 6:56 pm

THe paper on your door is in your name.. They cited my husband so I will go to city hall tomorrow and have a talk with them.. I am not ignoring them I am going to have a talk with them and will send Spencer after them if they do not back up.. By the way the paper says call this number if you have a question but they omit to tell you that that number does not work.. They supposedly reported it last week.. I bet it is still out of order.. Very Happy

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Post by Intercasa on Mon May 08, 2017 7:10 pm

Please video your interaction as it would be good for all, will be interesting to see how they say one authority requests the info when it isnt the case
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Post by brigitte on Mon May 08, 2017 7:18 pm

I do not have a cellphone good enough right now but I will report.. It should be an interesting conversation...

By the way could they really be in trouble if denounced by several people ?

Since the papers all have names and they are giving citation, can we find out if they only have foreigners on that list?

I am going for my husband but only his name was on that paper..

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Post by kipissippi on Mon May 08, 2017 10:02 pm

Brigitte.....BORROW ONE!!!!!
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