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Post by Trailrunner on Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:37 pm

Took me 40 minutes to drive from La Cristina to the light in San Antonio. Never got over 5 mph.
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Post by Lady Otter Latté on Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:11 pm

Holy crap! That is insane.
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Post by coffeeguy on Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:15 pm

Our yoga teacher needed an hour recently to make the same trip.

If it's this bad now, what's it going to be like in peak high season?


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Post by Trailrunner on Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:33 pm

Much worse, me thinks.
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Post by Gamina on Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:26 pm

I've seen lots and lots of snow bird cars from Canada. I think we're almost at the high season.
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Post by ferret on Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:01 pm

It would be soooooo nice if the buses would get their butts off the road when they're stopping to drop off and pick up passengers.
I'm not saying that's the entire problem but it sure is blocking traffic unnecessarily.
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Post by gringal on Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:13 pm

Gamina wrote:I've seen lots and lots of snow bird cars from Canada.  I think we're almost at the high season.

I'm seeing plates from all over the U.S. Today from New York and Pennsylvania. Quite a few lately from California and Oregon. Not just Snowbirds.

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Post by Lady Otter Latté on Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:29 pm

Gamina wrote:I've seen lots and lots of snow bird cars from Canada.  I think we're almost at the high season.

High high season hits January when the people who have to be home for the holidays can leave and the ones who can not bear the two coldest months of the year head down for the sun. As bad as it is now, this is just the first wave. I think we need to count on it getting much worse.
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Post by Trailrunner on Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:35 pm

Yep, this is just the swell before the tsunami. swell. . .

Pueblo Magico, hahahahaha  Widening the highway during peak season hahahaha
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Post by suegarn on Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:16 pm

ferret wrote:It would be soooooo nice if the buses would get their butts off the road when they're stopping to drop off and pick up passengers.
I'm not saying that's the entire problem but it sure is blocking traffic unnecessarily.

And it would also be nice if cars would let the buses back on the road, so that they can try to keep to their schedule!  That's why some of the bus drivers don't pull off to the side, because no one is kind enough to let them back in! I take the bus all the time, and it irritates me when I see cars with one or two people in it, thinking that they are more important than a full bus load of people!

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Post by Lady Otter Latté on Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:10 pm

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ferret wrote:It would be soooooo nice if the buses would get their butts off the road when they're stopping to drop off and pick up passengers.
I'm not saying that's the entire problem but it sure is blocking traffic unnecessarily.

And it would also be nice if cars would let the buses back on the road, so that they can try to keep to their schedule!  That's why some of the bus drivers don't pull off to the side, because no one is kind enough to let them back in!  I take the bus all the time, and it irritates me when I see cars with one or two people in it, thinking that they are more important than a full bus load of people!

I think this is a chicken/egg dilemma. You say maybe bus drivers don’t want to pull over because car drivers don’t let them back into traffic. Car drivers don’t want to let buses in front of them because then they are stuck behind the buses that won’t pull over to let passengers off and on.
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Post by ferret on Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:40 pm

Yeah, it's a chicken and egg thing all right. I think education of both sides is necessary. I've had people honk at me for letting in a car... a car that needs to turn in front of me and has a huge line of traffic behind it that can't get by. If we just all did the right thing when it needs to be done, things would work much more smoothly. The buses that do pull off the road, are also the ones that signal that they want back into traffic. Those drivers deserve respect and consideration too.
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Post by slainte39 on Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:59 pm

Front end loaders, obreros, dump trucks, etc., that should be gone in a while, are now in and out along the Carretera , between Javier Mina and Colon.
For me, the most aggravating, is the illegal left hand turners, double parkers, slow witted parallel parkers, people lost in  space when the light turns green, and jaywalkers.
They come in ahead of (or should I say, behind) the bus drivers, who try to keep things moving when they are not letting people on and off,

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Post by gringal on Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:21 am

Nothing is going to get much better as long as a roadway for serving a few small villages is carrying as least ten times more traffic.
So far, no solution. Anything been proposed?

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Post by Trailrunner on Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:22 am

I want to say a word for the Chapala Bus drivers - I think as a rule they are courteous and good drivers. I see a few that go too fast through my village, but as a whole I believe they are very good drivers, polite, and respectful. I could NEVER do that job, all the distractions, traffic, people honking at them . . .a thankless job.

I also happen to have a friend whose dad is/was a Chapala bus driver. I met her long ago when she hunted me down to ask about a call I was on with the Cruz Roja ambulance for a kid who got pushed under the Chapala bus in front of the Chapala plaza. Luckily, the kid only lost his foot and not his head. Her father was emotionally paralyzed to drive a vehicle again and unable to work and earn money for the family. She asked me for some words to tell him.

He finally recovered enough to work again and one day a couple of years later he was driving west along the carretera when two scumbags decided to race. One of them pulled out in front of his bus and forced him to swerve into the cyclopista barrier and have a bad accident.

Another time a friend and I stopped to help teenage victims of a horrific head on accident in front of Las Fuentes with an old la bomba vehicle and a Chapala bus. The kids had passed on a blind rise in the road directly into the path of the oncoming bus. One was DOA, another was actively dying, and another was trying to die. The bus driver fled but his girlfriend stayed with the bus.

I encourage you to think twice before complaining about the Chapala bus and try putting yourself in their position for just a nano second.
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Post by ferret on Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:53 am

Honestly, I thought we'd be getting beamed everywhere by 2020. In the meantime, I try and get things done in the a.m. or after 6 p.m.
Traffic is traffic everywhere and there are good drivers and bad drivers everywhere.... and teenagers will always think that they're immortal.
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Post by Lady Otter Latté on Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:08 am

Trailrunner, where did THAT come from? One poster said part of the traffic problem was the buses that did not pull over to let passengers off and on. Then there was some discussion of why that might be which included the car drivers’ role and how bus drivers deserve respect. Next thing we know we got a rant from you about a kid losing a foot, teenagers dead and dying, a traumatized bus driver, and a call to stop complaining about bus drivers. It was over the top and not actually an appropriate response to the discussion preceading it. I hope you feel better now.
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Post by Trailrunner on Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:10 am

The point and purpose of my post, ferret, was to give the bus drivers a brake!
Not that teenagers will be teenagers.
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Post by ferret on Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:29 am

And my point and purpose was that there are good drivers and bad drivers... of both buses and cars.
I also didn't understand where your rant came from. BTW, I took buses, subways and trains for a good portion of my life. And my ex father-in-law was a bus driver so I'm more than familiar with the rants from all sides.
I do not appreciate any driver who doesn't adhere to the rules and regulations.
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Post by gringal on Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:57 am

Even if all the drivers of all types of vehicles were sensible and courteous......the problem remains:  this level of traffic requires a massive solution or we will always be crawling along during low or high season, so my question remains: Have the Powers That Be come up with a prospective permanent solution?  I heard some suggestions about going around the towns on the mountain side, but the problem there is land ownership and grade.  Anyone with more information?
Lacking a real solution, we may need to keep a supply of audio books in the car to lessen our frustration. It's what many commuters on the Los Angeles freeway system did in the normal gridlock there.


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Post by CanuckBob on Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:18 am

You can take the back roads from SAT to west Ajijic. No need to be on the caraterra when it's that busy.

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Post by brigitte on Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:41 am

The village is getting more crowded too. ..

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Post by CanuckBob on Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:51 am

Well not until you get right into the heart of Ajijic. The outskirts never have anyone. I take the back roads all the time.

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Post by gringal on Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:14 am

CanuckBob wrote:You can take the back roads from SAT to west Ajijic. No need to be on the caraterra when it's that busy.

Yes, you can, and I often do when returning from shopping in SAT. The drawback is the condition of the streets, where potholes and topes are numerous in La Floresta. A tradeoff.

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Post by ferret on Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:25 pm

I took the backroad today from the 711 in Riberas and all I wanted to do was get to Handy Mail which is just east of Superlake. Unbelievably bad roads... as in, I wish I still had my Jeep with 4 wheel drive. Actually took me longer than if I had crawled along on the highway. Sigh.
Bicycle race will be continuing tomorrow as well so give yourself plenty of time to get where you're going even if it will be Sunday morning.
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